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ronduth
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Quote ronduth Replybullet Topic: New build (gaming rig)
    Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 9:36am
Hello all,
I am going to be putting in an order tonight or tomorrow.   I am looking to build a PC between 1500-1800$   I play a lot of games as well as do live streaming on twitch.   I want to build the best possible computer for doing both at the same time.   I play BF4, Crysis, WoW.   I am no expert when it comes to this an I know many of you have a ton of experience so your opinion really matters to me. Thanks in advance
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Quote ronduth Replybullet Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 3:18pm
I put this together.   

Basically the 6core, 7990 radeon 8gig, SSD

What do you think about this rig with BF4, plus HD streaming on twitch?

*BASE_PRICE: [+1695]
BLUETOOTH: None
CAS: CyberPowerPC X-Titan Full-Tower Gaming Case w/ Front USB 3.0, Built-in Fan Control, EZ-Swap HDD Dock, & Side-Window Panel [-79]
CASUPGRADE: None
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [-25] (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: None
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4930K Six-Core 3.40 GHz 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified) [+304]
CS_FAN: Default case fans
ENGRAVING: None
FA_HDD: None
FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_CU: None
FREEBIE_MB: FREE! 802.11N Dual Band Wireless + Bluetooth 4.0 Expansion Card [+0]
FREEBIE_VC1: FREE AMD Ultimate Reloaded Game Bundle - Crysis 3 + Tomb Raider + BioShock Infinite + Sleeping Dog + Hitman + Far Cry 3 PC Games [+0]
FREEBIE_VC2: None
GLASSES: None
HDD: 128GB ADATA SP900 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s - 550 MB/s Read & 520 MB/s Write [+13] (Single Drive)
HDD2: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD [+78] (Single Drive)
IEEE_CARD: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD1: (Keyboard & Mouse Combo) Cooler Master Storm Devastator Gaming Keyboard & Mouse Combo [+0]
MEMORY: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1866MHz Quad Channel Memory [-117] (G.SKILL Ripjaws X)
MONITOR: None
MONITOR2: None
MONITOR3: None
MOTHERBOARD: * (4-Way SLI/CrossFireX Support) GIGABYTE X79-UP4 Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Ultra Durable 5, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 4 Gen3 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1 & 1 PCI [+13]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Professional [+31] (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 1,000 Watts - AZZA Titan 1000W 80 Plus Bronze Active PFC Power supply
RUSH: RUSH!!! READY TO SHIP IN NEXT BUSINESS DAY [+109]
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TABLET: None
TEMP: None
TUNING: None
TVRC: None
USB: None
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7990 6GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Dual GPU Video Card (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
VIDEO2: None
VIDEO3: None
VIDEOCAMERA1: Rocksoul 1080P HD Webcam USB 2.0 [+19]
WNC: None
_PRICE: (+2041)
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Quote kaptainkeel Replybullet Posted: 30 Oct 2013 at 1:50am
For those games and your budget, the 4930K/X79 system is overkill. You'd be better off getting a Z87 system with the 4770K. A few questions: Will you be overclocking? What resolution of monitor will you be using?

The following build will be better as it leaves you more upgrade options.

Changes:

Case: Personal preference mainly, changed for price savings.

CPU: Might see some loss in fps if you're streaming, but it will likely be negligible. You're also paying a premium for the X79 system.

Fan: The 212 Evo performs similar or better than the H60/550LC.

SSD: The 840 Evo is more reliable and performs better than the AData.

OS: Unless you plan on upgrading to more than 16GB soon or need Pro for a specific reason, no need to get it.

Ram: 8GB is enough for games for now. You can put it back to 16GB if you feel you will really need it. (Also, read the last change/argument)

Power supply: The Azza has quite a few bad reviews, so I recommend against it.

Rush: They'll just call you to say they can't do it anyway, so took it off.

Video card: For 1080p, the R9 290X will perform good enough to hit 60+ fps at Ultra in the vast majority of games. It also leaves you better upgrade options in the future unlike the 7990.

Camera: Forgot to put that back on. You can if you want.

$1,729 - $60 of rebates - 5% SPRING0410 promo code + $75 shipping = $1,657.55.

So, assuming you have a budget of ~$2,000, what should you do with that extra $350? You have a choice to either just keep it for yourself and use it towards other fun stuff, OR you can upgrade from a 1080p monitor to a great 1440p monitor.

Configuration#: 1FHT9Y (http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1FHT9Y)
Gamer Xtreme 2000 (NO MONITOR)
*BASE_PRICE: [+929]
BLUETOOTH: None
CAS: * In-Win Mana 136 Mid-Tower Gaming Case [+6] (White Color)
CASUPGRADE: None
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: None
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified) [+106]
CS_FAN: Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9]
ENGRAVING: None
ENGRAVING_MSG:
FA_HDD: None
FAN: * CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo Gaming Cooling Fan [+4]
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_MB: FREE! 802.11N Dual Band Wireless + Bluetooth 4.0 Expansion Card [+0]
FREEBIE_VC2: None
GLASSES: None
HDD: 120GB Samsung 840 EVO Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 540MB/s Read & 410MB/s Write [+55] (Single Drive)
HDD2: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD [+78] (Single Drive)
IEEE_CARD: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD1: (Keyboard & Mouse Combo) Cooler Master Storm Devastator Gaming Keyboard & Mouse Combo [+0]
MB_SRT: None
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1866MHz Dual Channel Memory (G.SKILL Ripjaws X)
MONITOR: None
MONITOR2: None
MONITOR3: None
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX] GIGABYTE Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Ultra Durable 4 Plus, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16 (1 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2 PCIe x1 & 2 PCI (Pro OC Certified) [+13]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+0] (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: * 1,000 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+107]
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TABLET: None
TEMP: None
TUNING: None
TVRC: None
USB: None
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+422] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
VIDEO2: None
VIDEO3: None
WNC: None
_PRICE: (+1729)

Edited by kaptainkeel - 30 Oct 2013 at 1:51am
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Quote GAN1957 Replybullet Posted: 30 Oct 2013 at 5:01am
One thing I disagree with. Any fan based cooler is large, may block RAM slots and puts extra weight on the MOBO. There is an added bracket that must be mounted to take the weight since this sets sideways and constantly puts stress on the MOBO.

Stick with a sealed system Liquid cooler. Asetek was one of the first in liquid cooling and holds some patents, they just don't have the name brand as CoolIT or Cool Master.

While CP is still clearing out the 7990 GPU, why not stick with it. Yes it is a twin GPU, but if you are only going with one GPU it seriously outperforms the 290X. The ghosting problems seems to be few and far. Check out the comparisons>>>HERE

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Quote kaptainkeel Replybullet Posted: 30 Oct 2013 at 5:21am
Originally posted by GAN1957

One thing I disagree with. Any fan based cooler is large, may block RAM slots and puts extra weight on the MOBO. There is an added bracket that must be mounted to take the weight since this sets sideways and constantly puts stress on the MOBO.

Stick with a sealed system Liquid cooler. Asetek was one of the first in liquid cooling and holds some patents, they just don't have the name brand as CoolIT or Cool Master.

While CP is still clearing out the 7990 GPU, why not stick with it. Yes it is a twin GPU, but if you are only going with one GPU it seriously outperforms the 290X. The ghosting problems seems to be few and far. Check out the comparisons>>>HERE


The 212 Evo is better than the 550LC/H60, but at a much lower cost. The only problem I see is during shipping (due to the heavier nature of it vs the water coolers), but that's what the extra packaging is for. Another reason I stick with it is because even if the fan fails, it still disperses the heat somewhat over its large heatsink - unlike a water cooler where if the pump fails, your CPU is going to be toasting (see a recent tech support topic).

I'm moving from the 7990 for a few reasons. While it might beat out the 290X, it also runs very hot. You also have fewer upgrade options in the future since four 7970s in crossfire sees diminishing returns since most games have some problems with two cards, let alone three, and don't even begin on four.

The 290X also has vastly superior scaling. Some games see a 90%+ gain from using a second 290X whereas a GTX 780 might only see a 60% gain (you usually don't simply see a doubling of fps by putting in a second card). Some games even see 99% gains with the 290X. This is especially true in games that don't have an optimized profile with the 7990. ARMA III for example shows much higher FPS with a single 290X than a 7990. Crysis 3 sees little difference between the 290X and 7990, but you could throw in another 290X (for two GPUs vs two GPUs) and vastly outperform the 7990.
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Quote ronduth Replybullet Posted: 30 Oct 2013 at 3:48pm
Thank you so much for this info! Kaptainkeel do you stream while your playing on the same computer?
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Quote kaptainkeel Replybullet Posted: 30 Oct 2013 at 8:12pm
I don't really stream a lot, but I have before and it worked perfectly.
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